Thursday, November 19, 2009
Separator post
The posts above concern the reading for Dec. 1 (Stephen Gardiner's "Geoengineering" piece).
William Baxer: People or Penguins
This piece is dated and so the environmental crisis that we are assuming in this class might not have been so easily assumed when he was writing. However, the pollution we have created has reached a point where is threatens us with major, life threatening issues. Our problems are way bigger than DDT and penguins. If we are to use his theory of working on the environmental crisis only enough to live comfortably I am not convinced that we will survive. He might argue that we will, each generation will survive by doing enough to keep the environment stable enough for human existence. But is this enough? The question has arisen of the extent of our responsibility to future generations. Do we owe prosperity anything?
I am not sure what Baxter’s answer here would be. Here we can see his theory of “trade-offs” becoming more complicated. “As a society we would be well advised to give up one washing machine if the resources that would have gone into that washing machine can yield greater human satisfaction when diverted into pollution control.” Would the “human satisfaction” of future generations be applicable? We can consider this through thinking first of people already in existence. I would love my children and want to do all I could to make the world livable for them; this could be minimalistic on my part. However, I also love my grandchildren, which would require a little more work to insure their safety and happiness. Yet, if I am concerned with their happiness, their “human satisfaction”, then I would want them to see their grandchildren living in a safe and healthy environment. Reaching this optimal level of pollution is not the answer because as self-centered a species we are we care about fellow human beings. It is for their sake that we should work for high standards of environmental improvement. However, I again agree with Baxter that we need to find figure out what we mean by this.
Wednesday, November 18, 2009
I however refuse to believe that animals and nature have no moral status and are simply at our disposal. Baxter blatantly refuses to believe that we should preserve the environment or its balance unless in doing so we benefit ourselves, and I disagree whole heartedly. I believe that it is our duty to try and help preserve the natural environments and animals around us, for they are just as much a part of this world as we are. While I do not think that we should put them at equal status or above ourselves, I think that they should be given some moral consideration. I do not think that cutting down trees for lodging is wrong per say, but that there is a balance between conservation and fulfilling basic human needs, and that we must strive to maintain this balance. Baxter claims that “there is no normative definition of clean air or pure water,” but I disagree again. Clean air and water is what the earth naturally does through its interconnected processes of life without the interference of man. I am not inferring that we should discontinue our use of the earth’s resources; I think that with all our innovations in technology we must aim to further push its limits and find new and more efficient ways of living, essentially decreasing the size of our human footprint.
Baxter: Heartless Monster or Pragmatist? (Probably a little of Both)
First let me say what I agree with in regard to Baxter’s article. He claims that environmental scientists and activists don’t have a clear objective when it comes to ecological problems – we want “clean air” and “clean water” and “lower pollution,” but it’s not clear what precisely the aim should be. Concreteness, I agree, has to be added to make a goal real. To solve any societal problem people need to know exactly what the goal should be and work logically and sequentially to reach that goal. Indeed, Baxter takes this point further and adds that, in reality, we need to reframe the pollution problem. We’re always going to have some level of pollution, and instead of demanding “no pollution” we should try to reach some “optimal state” of pollution – a stable and manageable level of pollution that can reasonably be achieved and maintained without devastating effects on the environment. Baxter is plainly a realist when it comes to ecological concerns. And while I realize he is talking theoretically, I do think, however, that he is guilty of his own criticism toward environmentalist: he should articulate more concretely (and empirically) what exactly this “optimal state” would look like, and how we could reasonably achieve it.
On the other hand, I completely disagree with Baxter’s attitude on species welfare. While I do believe – though I won’t argue it here – that value does come from humans (the anthropogenic view) I do not think that humans are the only creature which should have a moral status or should somehow be the ultimate measure of value in the universe (the anthropocentric view). He claims that real people, at some level, are really concerned with the safety of other species only insofar as they derive pleasure or some benefit from their existence and that “questions of ought” – that is, ethical questions – “are meaningless [when] applied to a non-human situation” (521). He defends this view by stating that before humans, there was no question whether plants might have been wrong for spreading across the earth and changing the composition of the atmosphere or whether rightness or wrongness even mattered when “the first amphibian…crawl[ed] up out of the primordial ooze” (521). This, to me, is a defense for the anthropogenic view, however, not the anthropocentric view. While I recognize I risk name-calling, I think when Baxter states “I have no interest in preserving penguins for their own sake” he is really confusing his own self-centeredness with the view that all humans are interested in other species only instrumentally. The burden of proof should be on Baxter to show that even if we only cared about species by way of their instrumental value that that is a morally justified way to be in the world. Maybe we naturally view the planet that way, but that doesn’t mean it’s right or that we don’t need to change that perception. I would need to see more information In the end, these arguments (that non-human situations are morally meaningless and that humans are ultimately selfish and that we see other species only in terms of their possible instrumental value) require better defense.
Links between Bradford and Baxter
Baxter also seems to address the issue in some ways by showing that there is a trade-off between pollution and what we gain from it. This seems to allow the idea that while there may be too much pollution; we do not have to return all the way to surviving by subsistence farming. I do wonder whether Baxter is right about using resources always creating pollution. I would largely agree it is common for this to be true in a capitalist society but I am not sure that it is always true. For example I would find it hard to believe that walking through a natural environ and picking wild berries or another natural product and then using it yourself would be pollution. I mean it would be possible to do so in an ecologically unfriendly way but I believe it could also be done in a nonpolluting and eco-friendly way. However this is outside of any capitalist system, though to be it does seem to be an example of when resource use does not lead to pollution. Personally I would agree that we should try to pollute less though perhaps not make a radical shift back to subsistence farming. To me it seems like we need to decide how much value a human has and how protected they should be from such an industrial-capitalist society. To me it seems we often pick wealth over preserving or bettering human life.
Baxter sets the bar too low
Moving on from the criteria, Baxter says that they are the only sound starting point for six reasons. The first of the six claims that it is the only view that coincides with the way most people think and act. I think that moral goals should not be relaxed just because most people are not meeting them. That’s like saying it’s ok to set a lower moral standard for rapists because it corresponds to reality. We should in no way relax moral expectations to cater to their twisted behavior. The second supporting point says that these criteria do not advocate for destruction of nature because man needs nature in the long run. However, current events prove otherwise. Corporations, in their unending endeavor to maximize profit, use and abuse nature with total disregard for how their actions harm nature and other, typically poor, people. His third point says that what is good for humans is often good for nature. But I disagree with this. What humans view as a good thing is often detrimental for nature. Humans view eating a lot of food as a good thing, but the food industry is creating huge problems. In factory farming animals are treated horribly and forests and ecosystems are destroyed to make way for even more factory farms and for more plant-food to feed the animals. Overall, Baxter’s fourth criterion is contradictory and about half of the support he presents for the criteria is wrong.
Subsistence living the only way?
The first point that I thought was intriguing was the idea of third world countries and their inability to afford both safety measures to deal with hazardous contaminates used in their fledgling industrialization. It immediatly made me question not whether or not these chemicals should be used by them, but rather, if we are in the situation as a supplier don't we have a higher obligation to see that they are used effectively and safely? I felt that Bradford went straight to the solution of removing all chemical production. While this is a possible solution, I do not think it has the practicality necessary to become a legitimate solution.
Moving on, Bradford comes to the same conclusion when speaking about non-subsistence living. He believes that industrial civilization, or as he refers to it, an "exterminist" system, is the result of corporate "greed, plunder, salvery..." and that the only way out of it is back to subsistence living. While I understand the correlation between industrialization and widespread chemical use, I cannot submit to the claim that is a contentious decision of the factory owners or government to allow for such things. Or to the short-sighted claim that the only way to counter these problems is to go back to a subsistence living. Technology is a mighty tool, one that is in need of responsible use. Just because chemical production has negative aspects does not mean it is bad; rather it requires greater focus on safety and proper usage. Outright reversion to "village life" is not something that is practical, while it may be effective. Responsible handling of chemicals, of all technologies that produce pollution, can result in perfectly safe technologies. In developing countries, aid should be given by nations that have cut their pollution quantities in the mindset that it will be beneficial to all. As dicussed in the earlier piece by French, one nation's pollution does not only affect that localized area, but has far-reaching consequences.
pollution's a problem...and baxter's a jerk
Firstly, his criteria for his "human organization" problem-solving tactics are selfish (see #2), species biased (see #3), and nearing the line of tragedy of commons situations (see #4), although he claims to avoid this with redistribution. Also, it's great he is able to throw his view out there ("my observations about environmental problems will be people-oriented, as are my criteria" [pg. 520]), but his support for this "attitude" is not so great. To say that no massive destruction of plants and animals would occur since there is human dependence upon them (leading to preservation) is basically a lie. Look at all of the species that have disappeared, are endangered, or threatened because of us. And to what degree of our reliance is enough for proper preservation? Is fauna and flora not directly relied upon not worthy of existence?
In addition, his claim that what is good for humans is basically good for other living creatures too is weak. And what is his definition of "good", the basic elements required to live? Even when looking at just humans...what's good for an infant and what's good for an adult are not always the same. He is making unfounded generalizations.
Another one I have a problem with is his notion that "agricultural use of DDT must stop at once because it is harmful to penguins" (pg. 521) is an extreme assertion. Doesn't he realize how narrow-sighted he sounds? Firstly, penguins are not the only species experiencing the ill effects of DDT; and secondly, their situation can serve as an example of what various effects could occur with multiple life-forms...if it can harm them, why not humans too? It'd be in our interest to turn to a safer product.
For his fifth argument (for his "attitude") he inquires the amount each type of species would count if included in our social organization and if/how people will be their proxies, for "self-appointment does not seem workable to [him]" (pg. 521). Well, Baxter seemed to have no trouble at all in appointing the human race to speak for and make choices affecting all of these species.
Baxter's rejection of the proposition" 'to preserve the environment' unless the reason for doing so...is the benefit of man" (pg. 521) seems odd on account of our environment is where we live, what we rely on for survival. Is he secretly aware of another planet currently full of endless resources for us? How does keeping this planet healthy not benefit mankind?
To his issue with the lowering levels of pollution (bottom of pg. 521)...it will not necessarily lead to lower levels of food, shelter, education, and music...but perhaps different variations of these means (and others) of human satisfaction. He loves painting as drastic a picture as the extreme conservationists.
Lastly, is the cost of putting in labor, and skill, and money, and time into one project (pollution control) and not being able to use those resources in another type ("building hospitals, fishing rods, schools, electric can openers"). He should also consider the costs that accumulate when not controlling pollution such as various medical expenses, deaths, filtering/cleaning smaller and smaller (and increasingly more expensive) amounts of water, and increased land-use, fertilizers, and farm equipment required for degraded farm lands to keep producing goods.
Pollution Reduction and Human Happiness are not Mutually Exclusive
The toxic chemicals that enter the environment through runoff as a result of agricultural activities and that contribute to health problems among humans (as well as other species) do not need to be used (at least in the proportions they are used on conventional farms), as evidenced by the success of organic farm industries. In addition, pollution emitted from factory farms could be reduced simply by implementing regulations mandating farm operators to regularly clean up animal wastes and provide healthier environments for the animals to be raised in. Reducing pollution in ways such as this would allow more humans—such as those who live in close proximity to factory farm facilities—to live healthier lives, something that Baxter would agree would be a good thing.
Moreover, we wouldn’t have to give up any of our happiness or current quality of life if these changes were to take place; rather, our quality of life would increase. If all produce was produced organically and if all factory farms were operated in a clean and safe manner, smaller yields of produce and meat may be produced than those that currently are, but I think that the long-term health benefits received by humankind (from being provided with healthier, chemical-free foods and air with less pollution) would far outweigh these minor sacrifices and may reduce some individuals’ need for extensive medical care. Furthermore, if all industries followed the same regulations, the issues of cutting costs and competition among industries would not be exacerbated, because all industries would have the same restrictions imposed upon them.
I'm not sure we could be friends, Baxter.
I thought of the concept of biophilia, which seems to argue that humans have an evolutionarily programmed interest in the well-being of non-human members of our Earth community. We derive pleasure from seeing megafauna in the wild; we make scientific breakthroughs with the fluids of rare plants. He uses the example of DDT, which he sees as having benefits for humans but negative consequences for other species. I would have to argue that DDT also has negative affects for humans: if we did not outlaw it based on its affect on animals, it could have accumulated in the biosphere to the point where it infiltrated our own fat cells. The penguins were an indicator of the bad affects of a generally toxic substance. (Even though this is my argument against his example, it strikes me as a flaw in his piece that he goes on to argue "what is good for humans is, in many respects, good for penguins and pine trees..." - without acknowledging his own example of DDT, good for humans, as an exception, since even he acknowledged it as being bad for animals.)
In his conclusion, Baxter claims that controlling pollution is costly, but I would argue (and I believe Hilary French would agree) that the best means of controlling pollution are avoidance techniques. (It might actually save money to prevent pollution.) The expected "cost" that many corporate think tanks assign to pollution control is really only in terms of lost profit, which is only a marker of money. (Baxter and I agree, at least, on the irrelevance of money.) There wouldn't be any additional use of resources to prevent pollution. Even if the lost profit happened, it might actually serve Baxter's goal of minimal sharing of wealth, as a means of redistribution, since large corporations that have an unbalanced amount of money anyway would be the ones losing out.
changing perceptions
"Getting rid" of the chemical factories is not the answer.
Tuesday, November 17, 2009
Monday, November 16, 2009
Thoughts
I have two arguments for the third part of our reading assignment
1. The authors have a general argument for buying locally versus buying globally… if you’re not eating locally you’re wrong. The authors believe that purchasing locally is better, overall, for the environment. It cuts down on extra costs such as shipping and extra fuels being burnt, etc. However, my argument right back at the authors would be: how can be so sure that organic farmers uphold the standards that are posted on the USDA network, not to mention these regulations are very loose? Additionally, although local may seem to be friendly to the environment, it can be quite the opposite when it comes to organic fertilizers. There are over 500 different types of fertilizers; anything from crab meal made from Blue Crabs to Bat guano. However, when people purchase these organic things their actions have a consequence on crab populations and biodiversity. For instance; crab meal is made from crushed up shells that are left over from the crab industries. The way these industries go about harvesting these crabs can be detrimental to their populations. Using the Chesapeake Bay for an example has one third of the nation’s crab population. However, since the 1990s, blue crab catches have significantly dropped by 70%. To break it down even further, between 1968 and 2005, commercial crab harvest from the Chesapeake averaged about 73 million pounds annually. That is a lot of crab. Overharvesting these crab populations can have reprocautions in the food chain. Furthermore, harvesting bat guano is detrimental to the caves in which the guano is collected. Let’s take a cave in Jamaica for example. The destruction of Jamaican caves is due to human visitation through mining the guano. Additionally, rich deposits of bat guano act as food for several invertebrates that dwell at the bottom of these caves.
2. My other argument lies with the misquoted press woman, Lindsay Allen, on page 225. She ran an experiment with Kenyan children given additional-animal based foods. Although she is trying to improve and help their diets, I find that studying these effects on children and using the kids as experimental projects is wrongfully using them and it is a moral issue. I could similarly tie this back to the ‘golden rice’ experiment (pg. 214). Produced decided to lace corn, which is a staple food for nourishment, with beta-corotene. Although this could very well have been a wonderful product for third world countries suffering from a majority of the population being malnourished, I tend to wonder how many patents it had to go through. I still do not think they have reached the final product because I have yet to hear about it on a global scale. Therefore, just as experimenting kids was a moral issue, I believe spending millions of dollars on a useless product is a moral issue as well. The product process is draining to public resourced and distracts us from a sustainable agriculture that can produce real solutions to world hunger and malnutrition.
Another issue I have is in regards to the conclusion on killing creatures without the potential to become as intelligent/rational/etc. as humans. If someone believes this is okay, that a retarded human incapable of developing like other humans do is allowed to be killed, Singer and Mason seem to have no real response. They talk about how this is not an impregnable defense, but it is still a defense they do not completely bring down. When Scruton talks about human beings being fulfilled by their aspirations and achievements he lacks another point that would help refute Singer and Mason's response that Scruton must support killed retarded people. Human beings are also fulfilled based on relations, even with retarded people, where as animals are not. Their offspring will even be eaten/abandoned if found to be retarded. Humans on the other hand will have emotional damage due to attachments we can forms with them, which as we all know can lead to physical damage (emotional to physical that is).
In the end I'm a little fuzzy on all this myself, and I've mostly raised more questions than answered any.
Eating Animals
Softer Food Ethic Also Promotes Critical Thinking
As a result of this curiosity, I attempted to research the “ethical nature” of two companies after a visit to a grocery store. The benefit of labels is that it distinguishes if big companies are potentially unethical even though it doesn’t legitimately denote ethicality to the labeled. The “Darling Clementines” that are manufactured by Sun Pacific are not organic or free trade . . . but they are not animal flesh either. The Sun Pacific website promoted the taste of its products and their efficiency of production, but I could not find what chemicals they use when farming. I do not think that they are the most ethical choice, but at the time I did not see any organic Clementines. I also tried researching “Sun Chips” and found some articles about the branding of certain foods as green foods. All in all, I can understand where curiosity and work meet in the process of becoming an ethical consumer. Singer and Mason’s book would be very useful for wading through the information acquired from such searches.
history shows capitalism wins over ethics...
However, Singer and Mason argue the point that the industrial and capitalistic driven food system can be transformed by our individual consumptive choices. Therefore, with this belief, factory farming will then become obsolete if more and more people refrain from purchasing those factory farmed foods.
But, as they both point out, while organic food has become more visible so has "corporate organic companies,” such as Horizon. These companies are providing healthier and more environmentally sustainable food and are therefore more ethical. Thus factory farming in the traditional sense could become obsolete.
However, these companies are then subject (especially as more and more people jump on the organic bandwagon) to the same drive of necessity as every other capitalistic company. By this I mean that these “corporate organics” will have to constantly drive down production costs in order to remain competitive, which is exactly what the “free market” demands. With that said it seems almost inevitable that our capitalistic economy will takeover most organic production; thus, most likely leading to the destruction of the principles of community building, social justice and respect. The “free market” and capitalism are strong forces that compel many companies to become competitive and then succumb to the pressures of cutting costs. What does this cost cutting affect? Who does this cost cutting affect? Workers? The environment? Animals?
What’s to say that organic food production won’t become what our factory farming became in 25 years? Why wouldn’t they try to remain competitive and cut costs? There is always going to be that constant tension between making a profit in a capitalistic economy and ethics in production and history has shown us that the economy has won.
The authors take their argument further in relation to the farming techniques and ethical implications that eating meat drag along with it. In their “Drawing Conclusions” section, the authors make some conclusions that don’t really seem to follow their arguments. They go from an environmentally conscious argument for not eating meat to the unethical treatment even the well treated animal’s experience and than finally arrive at the psychological problems even the conscientious meat eaters must experience. I will concede that the environmental argument is sound, and should cause people to reduce the amount of meat they consume. Their argument for the unethical treatment of the Polyface Farm animals seems to be stretching the limits on what they demand of animal treatment. Polyface seems to be doing a fair job of treating the animals well, despite what the authors have said. The farm is doing almost all it can to make life for these animals “good.” They are doing such a good job that they receive accolades from well known news papers. Yet the authors attempt to put down the efforts as insufficient. I think the authors needed to give a bit more praise for this farm having an ethical standard that is self imposed. Lastly, their argument regarding the psychological temptations that even conscientious meat eaters face seems to be pretentious. They say that since meat eaters face temptation to take the easy way out by eating animals that were treated poorly, it is likely they will do it. As a result the line is “fuzzy” in what is humane enough to eat. While they are correct about the line being fuzzy, they will only alienate meat eaters by saying they have little or no control over what they eat. To be frank, the authors come off as stuck up, not to mention morally and ethically superior due to their ability to walk such a hard line.
GMOs safe for consumption
Choosing Veganism for your children
Children need more protein than adults, so a parent shouldn't pick a diet for thier child just because of personal beliefs or personal methods. I'm not saying that this is the only reason that Vegan parents choose vegan diets for their kids. I just worry that veganism may make it hard for a child to get all the protein they need. It's easier on the standard diet, most would say, because the vegan lifestyle requires avoidance of certain foods, and extra work to get the right foods.
One last thing that I feel is worth saying is that the extra effort needed to be a vegan and get vegan food means kids have to miss out on certain "fun times" of eating with their friends who are eating a standard diet. They can't eat the spaghetti and meatball dinner that the hosts mom made at the slumber party. This separation is the parents choice, not theirs. Like I said, though, I don't think this makes veganism wrong. I simply want to say that these are thoughts that go through my mind when I pause on the idea of vegan choosen diets for children.
Business as usual/vegan world: Combating the ‘all or nothing’ attitude
One of the most troubling issues addressed in this book is the lack of transparency in the food industry. Factory farms often make information relating to their methods of food production completely impossible to obtain. This may involve misrepresenting their products, whether it be through meaningless labels such as ‘farm fresh’, easily obtained and largely uninformative certifications such as ‘cage free’, or straightforward lies such as ‘fresh caught’ applying to farmed fish. Considering this, it may be more difficult to consistently find products that are truly sustainably produced and cruelty free than it is to find vegan products.
So, what should we do? If one is unconvinced that eating meat is wrong, but agrees with the authors’ other arguments, one is at least obligated to take on this daunting task of intensely researching all of their food purchases. This will be extremely challenging and time consuming and one might instead choose to simply eliminate animal products from their diet altogether. Making a related point, Singer and Mason write, “Since we are often tempted to take the easy way out, drawing a clear line against eating animal products may be the best way to ensure that one eats ethically—and sticks to it” (257). So, if you’re convinced by their arguments, you should become a vegan. If you’re convinced by most but not all of their arguments, you should still probably become a vegan.
However, Singer and Mason’s project is one of providing their readers with information and relevant arguments. Then, allowing for the possibility that some readers will remain unconvinced, they offer a variety of practical advice on how to choose food appropriately. This is why they write, “The choice is not between business as usual and a vegan world” (245).This misconception, which we might call an ‘all or nothing’ attitude, seems to be one of the greatest obstacles for convincing people to make ethical food choices. Of course, one should not feel that making an ethical mistake is the end of the world, even if it is done knowingly. The person who occasionally makes compromises is not a “moral monster”, but the person who attempts to justify moral apathy is truly doing something wrong. This is the attitude which the authors hope to battle against.
Quite rightly, the authors conclude their book with a discussion of what is to be expected of consumers and a reminder that “it is important to avoid the mistake of thinking that if you have ethical reasons for doing something, you have to do it all the time” (281). In light of the serious problem of the ‘all or nothing’ moral attitude, the authors’ rhetorical strategy (while not necessarily reflecting the demanding nature of moral obligations) seems to be a very good one. This rhetorical strategy is more instrumentally successful than the alternative of relentlessly supporting their more demanding argument that everyone should have a vegan diet. The larger argument in The Ethics of What We Eat, which I consider to be overwhelmingly successful, is the simple fact that “our food choices matter”.